I'm not going to go on at length here, but a fellow blogger inspired me to vent some grievances, so here it goes. I'm a member of two major fragrance forums, the "Good" Fragrance Forum, and the "Bad" Fragrance forum. True fumeheads know which they are, I needn't name names. One is full of amiable people, some of whom are so nice that they randomly email me to say that they enjoy my fragrance reviews there. The other is populated to an extreme with nitpicking assholes who engage in conversational combat whenever they can. You so much as sneeze a well-worded opinion that they disagree with, and it's a hands-on fuckfest, an attack of the pseudo-intellectual Zombies of Mora Tau.
Engaging in thread posting in this Bad Neighborhood of the two perfume forums reminds me of my experience as an expat in Prague a few years ago. My expatriation attempt failed, chiefly due to my inability to cope with my fellow expats, of all things. I somehow fell in with a small group of Americans who were so insufferable that they literally drove me to drink, and eventually insane. It was only through subsequent years of counseling and personal reformation that I was able to resume a healthy outlook again. But looking back, it amazes me that I used as much tact as I did.
You see, these people weren't really the norm, as I was led to believe back then. They were exceptional people, because they were expats, and because they were asshole expats. Let me illustrate with examples: My room mate was a fellow student, a young man who earned his English teaching certification with me. He was Korean American, and for anonymity's sake, let's call him "Jim." After a month of working with Jim, I decided it would make sense to room with him, as there wasn't much time after school to get one's shit together, find an apartment and a job, and get on with being a successful expat.
I soon learned that Jim was the kind of guy who left the apartment empty and with the gas stove's burner on and lit. That's right, flame up and everything. And he was the kind of guy who, when asked about this, would get angry at you, and accuse you of being a hardass.
But this wasn't even what bothered me about Jim. No, what bugged me about him was that he would urge me to go out with him and another woman - we'll call her Nancy - and then team up with her to set about disagreeing with every single word I uttered, regardless of content, theme, or intent. Example:
And an even simpler example:
You get the idea. I, a graphic design major of four years who studied fine art for an extra year at the Mason Gross School of the Arts at Rutgers, couldn't possibly know the difference between illustration and fine art. Nuance, and its finer points, are not things I should deign to tiddle with. Jim, who dropped out of college, and Nancy, who has a liberal arts degree and prefers waitressing because "that's where the real money is," knows more about the separation between artistic fields than I ever could.
I get the exact same vibe on the "Bad" Fragrance Forum. You speak from experience, or inarguable knowledge on any topic, and inevitably someone jumps down your throat, someone who can't even put a sentence together without multiple spelling errors, and then gets offended when you can actually back your stance up with facts. Furthermore, the "Bad" Fragrance Forum is populated with those who never compliment you on your reviews, cluck distastefully when you post on your blog, and sometimes even email you to challenge some assertion you made four years ago. Of course, this forum isn't as well organized as its main competitor, lacks images for 75% of the fragrances in its cluttered and bloated database, yet somehow maintains an impressive internet presence, and even the hubris to post extremely lengthy "Forum Rules" over threads. Meanwhile, its competitor has images for 100% of the fragrances in its database, doesn't drone on at length about the thread-writing conduct expected of its unbelievably well-behaved members, and has excellent organization, with updated blog posts by its staff every few hours. In a just world, this "Good" Fragrance Forum would be the most popular one on the internet, and eventually replace its overrated and badly-monitored counterpart.
Fuck it. I'm over it. (Takes iPhone out and passive aggressively texts whoever pops up on his contact list first.)
Engaging in thread posting in this Bad Neighborhood of the two perfume forums reminds me of my experience as an expat in Prague a few years ago. My expatriation attempt failed, chiefly due to my inability to cope with my fellow expats, of all things. I somehow fell in with a small group of Americans who were so insufferable that they literally drove me to drink, and eventually insane. It was only through subsequent years of counseling and personal reformation that I was able to resume a healthy outlook again. But looking back, it amazes me that I used as much tact as I did.
You see, these people weren't really the norm, as I was led to believe back then. They were exceptional people, because they were expats, and because they were asshole expats. Let me illustrate with examples: My room mate was a fellow student, a young man who earned his English teaching certification with me. He was Korean American, and for anonymity's sake, let's call him "Jim." After a month of working with Jim, I decided it would make sense to room with him, as there wasn't much time after school to get one's shit together, find an apartment and a job, and get on with being a successful expat.
I soon learned that Jim was the kind of guy who left the apartment empty and with the gas stove's burner on and lit. That's right, flame up and everything. And he was the kind of guy who, when asked about this, would get angry at you, and accuse you of being a hardass.
But this wasn't even what bothered me about Jim. No, what bugged me about him was that he would urge me to go out with him and another woman - we'll call her Nancy - and then team up with her to set about disagreeing with every single word I uttered, regardless of content, theme, or intent. Example:
Me: "I like Norman Rockwell's art work, and he's actually not even considered a fine artist. It's kind of weird, but he's really considered an illustrator, due to his extensive career with the Saturday Evening Post."
Jim: "Uh, nooooo. No. Pretty sure he's one of the greatest fine artists who ever lived, dude."
Nancy: "Right? I mean, come on. What are you talking about?"
Jim: "Not only was he a great artist, but his paintings are pretty widely regarded as testaments of great American art."
Me: "Not disputing that. But I'm just saying that there's a difference between what Rockwell did, and what Jackson Pollock did. Pollock was a fine artist who created works that were based on a personal philosophy, and which served no overtly commercial purpose. Rockwell painted for magazines. And my professors largely considered him to be technically highly skilled, but a bit sentimental, which unfortunately and even unfairly is a death knell for anyone hoping to be considered "great" in an artistic sense."
Jim: "Sentimental? What are you talking about? There's nothing sentimental about his work, and even if there was, how does this keep him from being great?
Nancy: "That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. Of course he's great, he's one of the greatest artists who ever lived."
Me: "I'm not saying he's not great. I'm just saying he's in a different category of greatness. He's a great illustrator, not a great artist. That's all."
Jim: "Yeah, okay. Whatever, dude."
Nancy: "You're definitely not making any sense at this point. He's a great artist. Just give it up already."
And an even simpler example:
Me: "The sky is blue."
Jim/Nancy: "Actually, nooooo. No. It's green. It just looks blue. Are you going to eat your last piece of smažený sýr?"
Me: "Yes, but I'm going to kill myself first. If you don't mind, that is."
You get the idea. I, a graphic design major of four years who studied fine art for an extra year at the Mason Gross School of the Arts at Rutgers, couldn't possibly know the difference between illustration and fine art. Nuance, and its finer points, are not things I should deign to tiddle with. Jim, who dropped out of college, and Nancy, who has a liberal arts degree and prefers waitressing because "that's where the real money is," knows more about the separation between artistic fields than I ever could.
I get the exact same vibe on the "Bad" Fragrance Forum. You speak from experience, or inarguable knowledge on any topic, and inevitably someone jumps down your throat, someone who can't even put a sentence together without multiple spelling errors, and then gets offended when you can actually back your stance up with facts. Furthermore, the "Bad" Fragrance Forum is populated with those who never compliment you on your reviews, cluck distastefully when you post on your blog, and sometimes even email you to challenge some assertion you made four years ago. Of course, this forum isn't as well organized as its main competitor, lacks images for 75% of the fragrances in its cluttered and bloated database, yet somehow maintains an impressive internet presence, and even the hubris to post extremely lengthy "Forum Rules" over threads. Meanwhile, its competitor has images for 100% of the fragrances in its database, doesn't drone on at length about the thread-writing conduct expected of its unbelievably well-behaved members, and has excellent organization, with updated blog posts by its staff every few hours. In a just world, this "Good" Fragrance Forum would be the most popular one on the internet, and eventually replace its overrated and badly-monitored counterpart.
Fuck it. I'm over it. (Takes iPhone out and passive aggressively texts whoever pops up on his contact list first.)












